My friend Irey's post in its entirety:
|We are subjected to fallacious arguments regularly that our failure to satisfy Utopian social and economic expectations in our cities upon the advent of local black political power in the past two decades, and its inability to magically resolve intractable problems and issues centuries in the making, stems from the inherent erroneousness of “progressive” thoughts and policies. We are offered conservatism as an alternative, and are even treated to the sublimely ignorant line of reasoning that adopting the progressive philosophical bent was actually injurious to the material and social prospects of black America in the first place. One verbose but flawed commentator even dredged up The Atlanta Compromise as a particularly maladroit attack on the folly of progressivism. It is this ability and attempt to alienate progressivism, and somehow invent a homologous role for conservatism, in modern black American history, that I find fascinating and intellectually troubling. It may be the generational divide separating those who know the “Civil Rights” era as history and those who experience it as memory, but to the latter group, conservatism was the antithesis of the civil rights revolution; as the movement was about escaping and breaking with the past. But since I am blogging on a site called Booker Rising about Bookeristas, I must add that I think it is by and large pertinacious and emotional loyalty to the rectitude of the well-intentioned Mr. Washington to deny the verisimilitude that blacks were better served and advanced by progressivism, and stunted by the zeitgeist of Mr. Washington’s conservatism circa 1895. Only someone determined to be tendentious can discount the tremendous advances which have been made by black Americans in every domain, every vocation, and in every theater of American society, largely resultant to progressive policies adopted by themselves and allies. There are more wealthy blacks Americans than ever before. There are more middle class blacks than ever before. There are more college educated blacks than ever before. And yet conservatives still somehow find a mechanism to ascribe negative culpability to progressives for these achievements, and continue to make the aleatory argument, totally lacking in probative content, that there is some reason to believe that the road not taken would have arrived at a better place. I hate to remind Bookeristas that in the pantheon and marketplace of ideas, Mr. Washington’s ideas have been judged by history to be analogous to the laser disk, and those of Mr. DuBois would correspond to the VHS protocol. Progressivism won out; and the strides made in two generations since the Civil Rights era represent one of the most remarkable mass sociological transformations in history, occurring without warfare. If Utopia hasn’t been reached, it is ineluctable that transformative progress has been made. And objectively, there is very little reason to believe that adherence to Mr. Washington’s course would have delivered superior results. The greatest rebuttal to those who may disagree with his conclusion lay in one of the seminal occurrences in American history – the Great Migration North. People voted with their feet, as it were, and elected not to cast down their buckets where they were, but ambled away from Mr. Washington and towards Mr. DuBois. Even our Bookeristas have mostly followed Mr. DuBois’ path educationally and professionally, and can only offer contrarian and theoretical imagination to postulate that Mr. Washington’s conservatism would have elevated the material and social fortunes of blacks as broadly and rapidly as progressivism has done. So, whatever value can be found in conservatism, it is situated elsewhere than in the deficiency of progressivism.|
This piece is worthy of publication in none but the finest of Black Progressive trade journals. The perfect mix of elocution and indictment of their #1 enemy who dares to refuse to kiss their progressive ring and the "ass" that it is attached to.
While I understand that I, Constructive Feedback, was the primary motivation for my friend's post - I also am challenged to avoid a transactional jousting match but instead to drag my dear friend Irey back to the REAL ISSUE that we should be discussing.
No one will argue that my dear friend Irey has a greater mastery of the written word that I do. Unfortunately a fancy wrapper cannot hide a 'regifted' coprolith.
My series of rebuttals and/or reframing of the argument. I post on this blog as a means of retaining my own arguments upon a bookshelf that I control.
|Irey Imparts Upon Us..................||Corrective & Constructive Feedback for my friend Irey|
|Initial Post (Above)||
You are more educated and articulate than most other Progressives on this board. HOWEVER you are no less predisposed to slander and molestation of your adversary in order to make your point.
YOU KEEP sensing attacks upon LOCAL LEADERS of these 'MISSION ACCOMPLISHED CITIES" and I am arguing that THE PEOPLE have:
1) FAILED TO BUILD UP INSTITUTIONAL GOVERNANCE to produce DESIRED RESULTS for the Black folks that matriculate through
2) I argue that TO DAMNED DAY we are living in the days of the "Development Plan" that the Progressives have sold us.
Take another look at the video from Camden, Irey.
Here is my direct rebuttal of your salacious charges using the FACTS AT HAND
1) The "Conditioned Blacks" are guilty of "Establishment Authority Repudiation" - they believe in their heart that the leadership that they hoisted into power in Camden never had the POWER that the WHITE FOLKS that preceded them (note - some of the leaders today are White) to allow them to both EXPECT the same bounty and to focus their PROTESTS at the seats of power - city hall, etc.
1a) There is a modicum of BLACK INFERIORITY laced within this tendency. They believe that ANY CRUMB that they did not have before Progressivism took over is one crumb more.
2) The guy worried about the Federal Republicans in the US House is more concerned about the loss of FEDERAL SOCIAL JUSTICE money flowing from DC through to Camden.
Here is what you would have learned had you read my blog for years, Irey. A CITY and a SCHOOL SYSTEM if a chartered franchise of the STATE. Yes education and other services that municipalities are state functions per their state constitutions. When a local charter is offered to a group of people in a previously unincorporated section - they are granted TAX COLLECTION POWERS in exchange for the franchise rights to educate, clean the streets, manage the water pipes and remove the poop out of the waste water before sending it back into the river.
Irey - with all due respect - you and your line of thinking are part of the problem. You achieve "self-salvation" by shifting your INDICTMENT nationally. The twin brother of this is that you don't ever have to aggressively go after the OVERLAY FORCE (progressive Democrats) who COMPELLED THE LEAST OF THESE to invest their VOICES - their BALLOTS and their PROTESTS into first putting this force into power and then PROTECTING them by refusing to BLAME THEM for the failure to deliver a return on investment.
I ask you this - IF YOU ARE A TRANSPARENT PERSON, IREY: Monitor the posts of "True Progressive Voice" for one week on this site and then provide us Bookeristas an UNBIASED analysis of his/her antics.
You need not abandon your own progressive fundamentalism to note the patterns (ie: Tea Party is racist as the SUPREME tactic of "Keep Your Enemy On Trial So You Never Have To Indict Your Friends". With the RACIST Tea Party thwarting OBAMA - the failure to provide sufficient HOPE AND CHANGE in the Southside of Chicago - is whisked away.)
Irey - you confuse your own ability to articulate, using big words on occasion, with a REPRESENTATIVE MODEL of what ails the Negro - with proper analysis for a cure.
It is more accurate to say that YOU and The Grio and The Root represent the POPULAR CONSCIOUSNESS among Black Americans in our present state of consciousness that is MISALIGNED with our COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT GOALS.
My personal New Years Resolution for all Black Lumpenprolitariate Progressive-Fundamentalist Nationalzied-Social Justice Chasers is that they grow conscious of OTHERS who are TRUE LEAST OF THESE around the world and go out to help them with SOCIAL JUSTICE just as you demand of the [stirke]White folks[/strike] National Republicans & Capitalists here in America.
There but for the grace of CAPITALISM goes Spitting Cobra.
|Initial Post Above||
EXECUTIVE SUMMARY of my initial rebuttal:
Irey - A teen mother with a young child on Christmas day is necessarily forced to dislodge all of her distant hopes that indeed there is a Santa Claus who will provide presents under her tree so that her young child can gain access to the joyful Christmas days that she herself enjoyed as a toddler.
She will soon find that IF she is to replicate her own childhood existence into her progeny her conscious mind must become more closely aligned with the TRUTH but always ONE STEP AHEAD of your little daughter as - such a child should not have her key development steps burdened by the world that lurks outside of the ecosystem that the ADULTS who are charged with governing it must shelter her from.
Irey - just like this 17 year old's notion of SANTA must be put aside - so too is it the case that PROGRESSIVE-FUNDAMENTALISM, upon taking control over a MISSION ACCOMPLISHED CITY'S ECOSYSTEM must necessarily shift away from the manipulations of consciousness that allowed them to gain power by convincing the people of their SOCIAL JUSTICE RIGHTS that would be obtained once this force is vested with POWER. Instead they must use the oft heard talking point "WE ARE THE ONE'S THAT WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR", not to compel the masses into VOTING as desired but instead to provoke them into aligning their repetitive personal actions into a system that produces ORGANIC COMPETENCY AND UPLIFT.
The Progressive's credit card account is reaching its maximum in Europe first and next America - Irey. What you OCCUPY as an indictment against the system is, in truth, merely a change up from the previous promises as you who is among the thought leaders of Progressivism and its entrenchment fully understand that THERE ARE NO PRESENTS APPEARING UNDER THE TREE brought by Santa and his elves that belong to the "Elfin Brotherhood Local 1066".
Stop telling young progressive boys and girls that they will get no SOCIAL JUSTICE unless they are loyal to your ideology throughout the 2 years between the elections.
Tell them that "The Progressive Santa Clause is INSIDE OF EVERYONE OF THEM"
1) Local Black Political Power
|- NOPE. I said PROGRESSIVE-FUNDAMENTALIST - the race of which is irrelevant.
We see that with today's consciousness that both "BLACKNESS" and "failure to deliver returns on investment" are irrelevant to obtaining mass support among Black people with the prevailing consciousness.
2) Utopian social and economic expectations
|- as with the Santa Claus post that I just made - I FAULT THE PROGRESSIVES for USING Black people's "Community Development Consciousness and HOPES" to draw our people along RATHER THAN "OPERATIONALIZING" this hope via the institution|
3) Two Decades
|- Nope. This would be back to Clinton. I argue that Bayard Rustin who voiced the SENTIMENTS of the gathering of Civil Rights Pharisees after King was killed - as the official start of this present HIJACKING of Black Consciousness, fusing it upon the Democratic Party. Closing in on 45 years/ 4.5 decades - not two.|
|4) Centuries in the making||- Irey is an intelligent Negro.
He is like a ranging bull, intent on shaking off ANY AND EVERY attempt by anyone to assign ACCOUNTABILITY for what his ideology PROMISED THE NEGRO in a grand confidence game
What Irey is loathed to mention is that OUR BLESSED CHILDREN are granted to us by GOD, hundreds of thousands of times each year. The same Progressives who can account for each and every lash by the slave master which beat the AFRICAN CULTURE out of the enslaved Black - can't manage to construct and maintain an protective WOMB around the young mind of the little Black boy and little Black girl as they matriculate through the INSTITUTIONS that are charged with their DEVELOPMENT.
Here is the key point by which the confluence between the "Black Consciousness" and the "American Political Domain" is necessarily DENIED by Irey and other Progressive-Fundamentalists - lest their entire scheme be exposed. The placenta that was to be placed around the "Black Community Consciousness", where only PRODUCTIVE and euthenic exchanges with the outside world are allowed to pass through this semi-permeable membraine.
The perverted irony is that the very schools and institutions that are marketed as "the great equalizers", providing a "competitive advantage" to those who matriculate though - are used as the cornerstone of the progressives INDICTMENTS against their political adversaries. They functionally argue "IF YOU CARE ABOUT US NEGROES as equally as you do your own children PROVE IT by YOU fixing OUR SCHOOLS, that WE NOW RUN as evidence of your concern for us!".
As much as the word "Massa" is thrown around by the Alpha Male Progressives that I keep calling out - they can't accept that their own disposition in relation to external forces is "Superior / Subordinate" in nature.
The thought that Irey can't bear to accept that the task fo INCULCATING our children for the world that we WANT THEM to sculpt for THEIR CHILDREN is the responsibility of the present day adults.
The wicked forces that operate on the INSIDE and out which try to hijack our consciousness into American politics do us grave long term damage for want of an election victory.
Irey has us to believe that our present day INSTITUTIONS are INFERIOR at casting a particular consciousness in the minds of our young Black people that are gestated in our "community womb" than the forces of the world is able to inject them with notions of "slavery" and Jim Crow.
|5)"We are offered CONSERVATISM as an alternative".||
I offer you NOTHING but SUGGESTIONS!!
The primary SUGGESTION is that you MANAGE THE INTEGRITY OF YOUR INSTITUTIONS!!!!!
I make the case that the Negro must DEMAND A RETURN ON HIS INVESTMENT - from those who compelled him to fuse his development hopes.
Ironically you can't bring yourself to see the separation that your community's interests have fro the "METHODOLOGY" that you advance. Not wanting to scrutinize the ruling regime of thoughts you are the propane torch through the field of strawmen that you gallop through on your high horse of ideological bigotry.
6) "adopting the progressive philosophical bent was actually injurious to the material and social prospects of Black America"
PROGRESSIVISM is a METHODOLOGY, a channel through which we were to receive INCREASE. The METHODOLOGY of monopoly choice is less of an issue than the evidence that the Black community has erected a TRANSPARENT GOVERNANCE STRUCTURE to prevent INSIDER TRADING by the Embedded Confidence Men. YOU JUST DON'T GET IT, SIR!!!!
The perverted point about your character is that the demands for REGULATION and TRANSPARENCY that you place upon governments and corporations and religious institutions to proven malfeasance - you don't deem the BLACK COMMUNITY WORTHY of these same governance structures.
The reason why, Irey, is because like all MONOPOLISTS you are not the one to STEP ON THE INFECTED, INGROWN TOENAIL which provides the hard keratin shell for your protection.
When I say "your infinite universe has looped around and now the red tail lights that you chase are those of the car that you are riding in" - YOU have failed to come to the consciousness that - For the NEGRO to advance he must GOVERN himself in a manner that he indicts his ENEMY with regulation and transparency demands.
|7) "Invent a homologous role for conservatism....................."||
Irey - When you were a young lad, about 7 years old - in line with the one that I observe in my own home - did you have a particular room in your house that you FEARED TO GO INTO? You called the dog, you called your sibling, you made an excuse as to why you did not want to retrieve that which your parents had asked you to do so.
It seems to me that as you attempt to run a rather elaborate "Keep Your Enemy On Trial.........." scheme - your WORDS and composition cannot distinguish you from the very same foundation that you occupy with Spitting Cobra or True Voice. Your words merely make for a more entertaining but roundabout journey.
You talk about the INVENTION OF CONSERVATISM. Where is your treatise on the invention of progressive fundamentalist hijacking as a "Negro Soothing Agent"? It is said that the White progressive gives the negro JUST ENOUGH so that he does not riot. It is my believe that the Embedded Black Fox Confidence Man compels the Negro to invest his HOPES into the channels that the Progressive-Joint-Venture approves of so that the MOTION that the Negro is encamped within provides for his exercise.
You stand upon the greatest INVENTION of a slight of hand, a veritable magic act that produces the BREAD AND CIRCUSES that keep the Negro contented and the Korean retailer chasing behind our people, collecting the money that falls out of our pockets as he jump up and down, signing the high praise of that which you stood up in front of us.
|8) "conservatism was the antithesis of the civil rights revolution"||
Most people would fall for your scheme, sir.
The CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT was commissioned ............
* To have Negroes not slaughtered on the streets with their throats cut by a hateful demonic force
* To not have our human potential derailed by a SYSTEM that was controlled by people who had no interest in Negro Developent
* To have our people DEPLOYED, working repetitively on a daily basis where their GOD GIVEN TALENTS as EQUAL HUMAN BEINGS can assist in their uplift to the desired standard of living
* Where our Health Relationships and Healthy Lifestyles define our life expectancy - the CULTURE that defined these attributes gone unmolested by larger societal forces.
IF YOU WERE HONEST IREY- you would NOT HAVE hijacked the debate into one of PROGRESSIVE marchers versus CONSERVATIVES - be they the Nation Of Islam who, like Herman Cain DID NOT MARCH or get catsup sprayed in their hair.
Instead you would be able to distill the EVIL that is received upon our people - with you standing up and accepting that these DEMONIC SPIRITS that cause the unchecked White Racist of yesterday is now in possession of the Street Pirate of TODAY who assaults us and the SOLD OUT NEGROS on the school board and city council who know that the Negro voters HATE their ideological enemies more than they know how to MANAGE a governing body.
( Do you see Irey - YOUR PENMANSHIP can't mask your intellectual FRAUD).
Of the POOR NEGRO CHILD IN WEST PHILLY, the tale of which riled up the sanctimonious Negro Progressives this past week after Forbes Magazine told him about the abundant resources available to him - HOW ANY OF THEM know the meaning of the world "verisimilitude" that our elocutionary expert Irey dolled out - let alone know about "dictionary.com", "onelook.com" or "webters.com" for them to span the Digital Divide and look up the meaning of this word.
Sir - I AM NOT IMPRESSED.
How CAN Irey impress me?
(Notice my transparency". )
Irey can achieve a "Mission Accomplishment" with me if he merely ADVOCATES FOR THE FULL EQUALITY OF THE BLACK MAN. Not just our "social justice RIGHT" for equal dispensation from the national treasure but the NECESSITY to govern our institutions and economic choices so that we LIVE UP TO the responsibilities of projecting our people's COMPETENCIES into the erecting of the tall pole in our community tent.
WHO ARE YOU IREY?
I mean it WHO ARE YOU?????
|10) "Only someone determined to be tendentious can discount the tremendous advances.........................."||
The problem with Irey is that is the SELF-PRESCRIBER and SELF-CASE-WORKER who doles out and then measures the effectiveness of the uplift efforts for the Negro.
While the Koreans who my wife pays each month trough automatic debt in exchange for Tae Kwon Do lessons tell my children "You become an expert only when you can TEACH another your skills" ........our friend Irey - so content in his protection racket of the Progressive-Overlay upon the Black community was out in front in castigating the Hurricane Katrina rescue in New Orleans as "too little and too late" but he can't bring himself to see that the AMERICAN NEGRO - who progress he self-award at the annual banquet where his ideological friends are made to slap each other on the back - HAS NOT master his own destiny to be of ONE BIT OF DAMNED HELP for any other diasporatic Negro who is desperate.
* Does the American Negro - through his Political Prowess has the capability to modularly help himself in Camden, Philly or Detroit - where his ideology dominates - NO!!!
* Can the American Negro who is in need of physicians care point to an increase in such trained individuals that have matriculated through his institutions? NO
The only thing that we can point to in regards to Irey - is that when it comes to the prospects of SELF INDICTMENT - he and others will throw alms at any "progress" and BLAME any insufficient "delta" that is below what is expected of a well run escalator upon the evil arm of SLAVERY - the institution that now the WHITE CONSERVATIVE RACIST exclusively operates in 2011.
Irey - I have learned to NOT engage in an UNSTRUCTURED argument with a progressive bigot. So too I refuse to allow you to SELF-APPRAISE our people's advancement without attaching it to SOMETHING OF WORTH.
I demand that you answer the question:
"IS OUR PEOPLE'S AGGREGATE UPLIFT SINCE THE TIME OF OUR CONSCIOUS FUSION INTO POLITICS - SUFFICIENT FOR US TO OBTAIN AND RETAIN THE DESIRED STANDARD OF LIVING - INSIDE OF THE VIRTUAL CONTAINER THAT WILL NEED TO BE MANAGED - ONCE THE FISCAL WALLS OF AMERICA COME TUMBLING DOWN?"
(I did NOT ask you to comment on how WHITE FOLKS will fare when this fatal event transpires)
|11) "There are more Negroes........"||
I told you before that the Black Progressive-Fundamentalist can be compelled to do as the REPUBLICAN does - view the WHOLE via the conditions of the 1%.
They have in common a desire to run a PROTECTION RACKET.
Irey - do I need to pull up the "dark matter" that accompanies your praise? I thought that it was the PROGRESSIVE who was to look at the greater whole.
Do you see that YOU are the CONSERVATIVE in this contextual sense- seeking to defend your establishment that you have erected upon the Negro community
A) Courtland Milloy - Black Women Hit Hardest In Economy
B) CNN- Black Unemployment Highest Since 1984
C) Homicide Rates For Black Youth Increase While Others Fall
Irey - I like you brother - but YOU are no different than any other INSIDE TRADER, seeking to protect your fortunes.
|12) "....without welfare......"||
There is an excellent "American Experience" documentary that detailed the migration of Blacks from Mississippi to Chicago.
It detailed how public housing and then later welfare was for TEMPORARY assistance for people in TRANSITION.
What you seek to "self-glorify" as evidence of your benevolence has actually MASKED your failure to engineer ORGANIC PRODUCTIVITY within the ranks of the places that your ideology dominates.
Mr Irey - I am different than any Black Conservative that you ostracize. I don't seek POLITICAL advantage only an UNHIJACKING of our consciousness and institutions. I am honored to know that you felt so compelled as such to have your writing above based largely on your INTERPRETATIONS of my arguments.
What you fail to see is that beyond the TRANSACTIONAL INDICTMENTS between the ideologies you as the MONOPOLY CONSCIOUSESS of our communities needs to have the self-RESPECT to show MEANINGFUL ORGANIC INCREASE for our people.
Instead you choose to document those points that only the parent of a child giving a first time piano recital can love. In doing so YOU are willing to accept the results that you see in the CONTEXT OF UNDERSTANDING.....that you DO NOT afford someone else's KID who's music play caused you to squench your face in pain as the notes were missed.
When you receive the consciousness of mind to see that YOUR "self-diagnosis" of Negro Accomplishment - as you tune out the groans that are coming at present from the "steamer class" on the ship - IS NO DIFFERENT than the selective indictment that the county sheriff in 1960 Mississippi operated with as HE TOO desired to retain power - then you will erect a more transparent set of measures.
OH FOR CERTAIN - "Dead Negroes" are the common result between MS where the SYSTEM affirmatively produced "Strange Fruit" and to-damned-day - where the would be "Pillars of our Society" that YOU were supposed to provide conscious direction to - produce the "Dead Negroes" - far out of alignment with our population proportions.
13) The GREAT MIGRATION
Secular Jesus PLEASE HELP THIS BOY!!!!!!!
Irey - Seriously bro.
I understand that there is a deluge of Black Progressive slanted news and blog propaganda sites that would applaud the piece that you just wrote as worthy of publication and housing in the "Library Of Congress".
Do you understand that there is a DARK MATTER domain that you dare not discuss for it might puncture your entire argument.
INDEED the "Great Migration" was a desire to have Black folks LEAVE OPPRESSION and guide themselves to OPPORTUNITY. Again -the Manning Marable masterpiece on Malcolm X provided great detail on the subject with the Lyttle family.
What I am dumbfounded about, Irey, is your INABILITY to take this same "Exodus From Oppression" - "Attraction To Opportunity" and apply it to TO-DAMNED DAY!!!
As I battle with the people on TheGrio - arguing that a POPULARITY POLL is not a sufficient measure of Real World Conditions for the Negro - as he will put his thumb on the scale to PROTECT the ingrown toenail - it is stunning that you refuse to update your saga for today using what the 2010 US CENSUS told us about Negro migration patterns.
WHY did so many hundreds of thousands of Blacks move out of Mission Accomplished cities like Detroit, Chicago, Philly or Clevland? Why don't you attach their loss in US Congressional representation with some sort of nefarious force that ran them out of town on the rail?
The answer is, Irey, that THIS IS NOT SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN in your world. We were to be ROLLING in this the "Mission Accomplished Period" of our development.
Tell me, Irey, WHY is it that our people are choosing to move into the areas where Rachael Maddow has a field day in attacking as uncouth and with aborted evolution? What is so putrid to hyper-liberals about the South but is now so attractive to the Negro who is reversing course for what their grandparents once took?
I would have more respect for you at this point Irey - if you borrowed from Spitting Cobra and told us that this is merely a trick. Once the HISPANICS are kicked out of the nation the "Reverse Migrating Blacks" will be made fieldhands again.
WORSE - despite all of the advances that you "self-enumerate" where is the Black Farmer - fresh with their aggregatation of $50,000 who have invested in the next generation of robots (or a scuba suit) that will afford the next generation of harvesting of crops in 100 degree heat? Yesterday's share cropper now has White farmers engaged in technical service contracts to keep the robots and the enviro suits properly operating.
You disappoint me greater than does True Voice because I EXPECT MORE from you Irey.