Monday, April 7, 2008

Where The Hell Do You Leftist, Anarchist MF'ers Come From?


brotherkomrade
Industry: Technology
Occupation: http://myspace.com/brotherkomrade
About Me
Born in K.C. MO., we roamed around a lot. We lived in L.A., Santa Fe, Houston, and now, I live in NYC. I was formerly a Black Nationalist, then a Marxist-Leninist, then anarchist, now black autonomist. I worked with the Black Fist collective in Houston and we put Black Fist, an anarchist 'zine that focused on people of color. The Clarance Brandley Coalition, did police brutality work as well. Later, I hosted and produced a political hip-hop radio show called Street Vibe for 5 years in the 90s.




Maybe it's just me?
Nearly each time I branch out to a different Black oriented chat site which gathers content from an array of different individuals - the overwhelming majority of content contributors are leftists. Then there are those who are far left, anarchist types.

I have to wonder - how the hell does an Anarchist or a Back To Nature Black Nationalists HAVE A DAMNED WEB PAGE AND E-MAIL ADDRESS? Aren't you consuming resources for your benefit that run counter to the essence of your being?

Where do they get these people from?

Dude is into TECHOLOGY.
Would it be any surprise to you if upon hearing dude's political or ideological views that a CORPORATION finds a way to let this INSURGENT FROM WITHIN go or at least being to protect their assets fom his use?

Maybe its just me folks.

5 comments:

brotherkomrade said...

Oh, this is gonna be good...

One, I'm not a back-to-nature anarchist, there are some to be sure but that has been an on-going debate amongst anarchists for decades. As for myself, there is no contradiction - there are tools or technologies to be embraced that have varying degrees as to what effects it has on the our environment. While I have no illusions what computer technologies can do to the environment, there are things we can do to curb the damage that technical devices can cause such as upgrading internal/external devices and contributing the old devices to services or agents that could use them. That's one way at least.
Technology is a tool and therefore whoever picks it up shouldn't be contradicting themselves as along as the aim of use of that technology has to do with their goals.
Protestors and disruptors of the G8 and WTO conferences all over the world used cellies, dv camaras, cellie cameras, etc. to aid in their work. See, technology and humans working together for the goal of a humanitarian act-to disrupt capitalists looking to destroy the earth and other human beings all over the Global South is being met. No contradiction there.

Second, I'm not an Anarchist any longer and that comes from the fact that I don't need to put labels on me to describe my politics and I don't like painting myself into ideological corners. Also, there are contradictions in my personal life (not the technology part) that simply wouldn't fit with the 'anarchist' label, but I respect anarchists of all stripes.

Third, I've often wanted to know where Ayn Rand-types get the idea that capitalism/exploitation is a more human characteristic but the characteristic to fight for equality and seeking to create a society where people will work just as hard to better all humanity rather than a paycheck is less of a human characteristic?

I will say this about your post, before I returned to blogging, last April I asked the same question upon looking at the black blogosphere but on the flipside; "Where the hell do you right-wing closet fascists come from?"

I mean from Cobb to Afronerd, you can clearly a need for a black-right watch in the black blogosphere.

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]See, technology and humans working together for the goal of a humanitarian act-to disrupt capitalists looking to destroy the earth and other human beings all over the Global South is being met. No contradiction there.[/quote]

Again BK:

Each time you post your dissent to capitalism on the Internet your ideas pass through about $100 billion worth of telecomm equipment that that would not be there but for CAPITALISM!!!

[quote]Protestors and disruptors of the G8 and WTO conferences all over the world used cellies, dv camaras, cellie cameras, etc. to aid in their work. See, technology and humans working together for the goal of a humanitarian act-to disrupt capitalists looking to destroy the earth and other human beings all over the Global South is being met. No contradiction there.[/quote]

BK

Do you ever notice that today cities such as Pittsburgh and Cincy and Chicago have rivers that are cleaner today than they were in the past 100 years? The Environmentally inclined would tend to attribute this to their advocacy.

Peel back the onion a bit and you will see that the LOSS OF POLLUTING MANUFACTURING PLANTS also plays a big part in the cleaner rivers IN ADDITION to the unemployment that is rife in these cities.

You have to understand...just like the question of "Does a tree that falls in the forest but no one is around to hear it make a noise?" the fact is that having achieved certain successes in the left-wing advocacy that is advanced there is MATERIAL HARM to the very WORKERS that some claim to be working for the benefit of.

There are always going to be ECONOMIC TRADE OFFS that are made. Just because someone doesn't recognize these costs in their activism (hell - in their corporate centric negotiations as well) does not mean that these COSTS are not present.

Renegade Eye said...

Thank you for visiting my blog.

What's black left-wing bias mean? The terms left and right have lost meaning. I'm a Trotskyist, and only endorse my comrades. Brotherkomrade is also on the left, but not from the same tradition I come from.

Both of us are against gun control. Does that make us rightist?

The capitalists can build great skyscrapers and new technologies, and will take them away from them.

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]What's black left-wing bias mean?[/quote]

This is pretty easy to describe.

As I do the "spider web walking" from blog to blog where a content contributor on one particular site exposes his own views on a blog of his own "and so on and so on and so on" there is an unmistakable pattern of thoughts and assumptions among the AVERAGE "Black themed" blog when it comes to politics and economics.

It is easy to see how where the voting outcomes that Black people express emanate from their line of reasoning as expressed on their various blogs. For ME - a person who is on a mission to understand the roots of my people's current ideological bondage and the gap that is perpetuated as expressed economically, academically and on our streets.... these intellectual 'inputs' prove eye opening as to WHY things are as they are.

It is clear to me that SOME of my contemporary brothers and sisters are in love with their IDEOLOGY than the OUTCOMES that they CLAIM to want expressed. They defend their ideology, often coming up with crafty conspiracy theories that allow them to bridge the intellectual gaps between where they stand and where they SHOULD be standing but for the negative pressure of the common antagonist.

One thing that is frequent among them is their unwillingness to engage in a structured framework for debate - where a claim is made, an honest attempt to put forth evidence in support o the claim is provided - empirical evidence trumping conjecture and the avoidance of the notion that popularly assumed notions are RIGHT simply because their are POPULARLY HELD by the masses. A circular reference that they choose not to come off of. They don't have to because they can roll over the individual voices that challenge them.

Thus the "Black Left-wing Network of Blogs" ultimately serve to support the status quo more than it does to challenge it and come up with a more reasoned outcome due to these challenges.

brotherkomrade said...

"Thus the "Black Left-wing Network of Blogs" ultimately serve to support the status quo more than it does to challenge it and come up with a more reasoned outcome due to these challenges."
How are the outcomes unreasoned?
plus, you are of course, as a person lacking a historic perspective of struggle missing out on one plain fact; I cannot speak for all left-radical bloggers, but having a presence online does not in anyway shape or form take the place of real; participation in grass roots organizing and political activism which I have done and as the opportunities arise, will continue to do. The online presence (and I'm repeating myself ONCE AGAIN)is not exactly meant to take down capitalism but can be used to get ideas across in an environment "meant" for capital but can be used to open the minds of the apolitical cyber-wanderer who would normally be clicking onto eMusic or whatever. In other words, I'm not here for the cyber-capitalist to listen to me, I'm here for the person who would possibly come across to the ideas of myself, Ask This Black Woman, Redeye, Chuck D, Field Negro, or Jello Biafra on the Internet if that person is willing to read or participate in an exchange of ideas. The Internet is full of conformist and reactionaries (some who actually have strange ideas of capitalism as an equalizer for women!)but the Internet also has its share of people who could potentially be opened to what is happening around them. Like I said, it can't be compared to actual in-community conscious-raising, but it is an avenue that leftist shouldn't shy from.